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Don’t Panic – A Direct Response to the SAEPOA Board Email of 8 Feb 2025

Yesterday, you probably received an email from “SAEPOA Correspondence”. Although the email is signed by Richard Baker as President, recent history has shown that the likely authorship is Jerry Powers, our Vice President.

The email appears intended to create a panic in order get the members supportive of disbanding the Association in order to avoid problems with the IRS.

I believe that there are many flaws in the argument given, and I urge the members to avoid panicking and hasty action.

Let’s look at what is said and how it should be looked at soberly:

The email states that “the SAEPOA attorney has informed us” – in other words, we still only have the words of an attorney who only consults with Jerry (per his own words and the obvious statements from SAEPOA legal invoices). This is an attorney, not a court, nor the IRS. Futhermore, all information is filtered through Jerry, who has sought the dissolution of SAEPOA for years.

According to the lawyer hired by Jerry using the Association’s money, we are “at risk of fines, back taxes, interest and penalties that could well amount to hundreds of thousands of dollars.” What is very important to realize here is who is “we”. Is it us as individual property owners? No! Rather, it is we, as the not-for-profit incorporated SAEPOA. In other words, SAEPOA is running the risk, not us personally. Could SAEPOA be bankrupted? Yes, primarily if this board mismanages things! How does that affect us individually? Well, we would be no worse off than if we disband it and give the money away as Jerry wants. There is a chance that officers of SAEPOA could be held accountable if the IRS or a court finds some kind of malfeasance. However, this is the case whether SAEPOA is dissolved or not. To reiterate, this is what the alternatives look like:

  1. Dissolve – SAEPOA account is certainly and completely zeroed one way or another. Officers could still be held liable for their actions if the IRS decided we were in some kind of violation.
  2. Keep – SAEPOA continues operation — and only in the worst case, or by board decision — the accounts are zeroed or substantially diminished. Officers could also be held liable for their actions if the IRS decides there is a violation.

In the board email, the earlier statements are clarified, but in a way likely intended to alarm by stating that it “could result in the filing of liens against property and garnishment of funds from the Association’s bank accounts”. Please note that the action mentioned is against the Association, not individual lot owners. In other words, worst case, how is this any worse than dissolving the HOA and giving the assets away preemptively?

Perhaps one of the most egregious statements was how this “was discussed at our last member Zoom meeting on January 31.” The meeting was, frankly, designed to prevent any discussion of an open variety. Zoom was used as a tool to control dissent as many of us suspected. The link is included in the board email, and I suggest that you review it. In it you will see that:

  • Richard, our president, only speaks for about two sentences, reading a prepared statement, and turning the meeting over to Jerry.
  • From this point forward, Jerry does all presentation.
  • The entire agenda and flow is oriented to move the membership towards panic, driven by the idea that the funds will be lost (by Jerry’s and the Board’s actions, which are likely not legal) and that there is a looming, if unclarified IRS problem.
  • Dissolving SAEPOA is presented as the solution to the problem, although it is not made clear how it would really improve our situation.
  • The only interaction allowed from the membership is through Zoom “hand raising”, and questions can be only be asked of Jerry.
  • When Jerry responds, the members are muted, so that they can’t question or reply to Jerry’s responses.
  • Chat was disabled to ensure no challenges there, either.
  • At one point, Jerry even goes so far as to answer for the Attorney!

The authors of the email state that the board wanted to “reform the Association and get it back to legal operation and do some good things for the community.” This is just not credible. Any attempts to get back to legal operation were certainly not discussed with the membership (not surprising there). Regarding doing “good things for the community,” the statement is not in good faith. This board and the Working Group have shown a studious disinterest in community-oriented activities, whether that is starting a Young Eagles activity, or doing community events like the Santa Fly-In where not one board member or Working Group participant was even present.

The email goes on to very forcefully push for the dissolution of SAEPOA, claiming that we “risk the IRS fines, penalties and back taxes that all members will be responsible for.” This is intended to create panic–inappropriately. Again, worst case, the fines and penalties would only belong to the Association. Back taxes could potentially (and unlikely) be owed by individuals under the improbable scenario that the IRS decides to retroactively pursue individuals for claiming deductions for their dues as charitable donations. Such individuals would only owe tax on the adjusted amount. Since the dues is small, the deductions are small, and the backtaxes would be even smaller. Furthermore, it’s unclear if dissolving SAEPOA would remove that unlikely(and probably tiny) tax liability.

The board then goes to make the pitch that we are illegal, again, with the underlined statement that a “501(c)3 corporation can only spend money on the public at-large and must not benefit the members.” The IRS, however, can (and often does) interpret this fairly openly. Historically, the IRS has certainly not meant that doing action for public good must exclude the members. For example, the EAA is a 501(c)3, but it still does good for its members, all 250,000 of them! Jerry’s main objection is that the primary expense of SAEPOA was roads. Keep in mind, however, that even though we are a private airport, we are public use. Any aircraft can (and does) use the roads/taxiways, especially the aircraft residents of the commercial hangars. Harrison Ford nearly took off into me as he taxied out from one of roads/taxiways, and I don’t believe he is a SAEPOA member! We keep the roads open to the general public who regularly walk or drive through the neigborhood.

Consider that SAEPOA has operated for well over 30 years without problems from the IRS. Jerry questions whether we are in conformity with IRS requirements and is saying that we need to dissolve quickly. I am simply asking “why the panic now?” What is it that drives us to act with great haste and little discussion.

Comments

12 responses to “Don’t Panic – A Direct Response to the SAEPOA Board Email of 8 Feb 2025”

  1. Jeff Johnston Avatar
    Jeff Johnston

    Well said. To reiterate and add:

    1. SAEPOA has 30 years of precedent as a 501(c)3 – with full knowledge of the IRS, and not one squawk from them in all that time – and Jerry expects us to believe that coincidentally, suddenly, just as he bought into the airpark, now it’s a problem.

    2. I haven’t seen any correspondence from the IRS regarding this issue. For that matter, none of us have seen any documentation at all – from the IRS, from SAEPOA’s (Jerry’s) lawyer, SAEPOA’s insurance company’s lawyer, the courts, nobody. What’s Jerry hiding?

    3. At least one member of SAEPOA has independently investigated this issue with the IRS, and has been told by the IRS that there’s nothing there. No issue.

    1. Steve Suddarth Avatar
      Steve Suddarth

      Jeff, do you know who at SAEPOA did that investigation with the IRS?

    2. Middleton Avatar
      Middleton

      Jeff, can you share who investigated this issue with the IRS and where is that investigation?

      1. Jeff Johnston Avatar
        Jeff Johnston

        I told you already.

  2. DebandEd Avatar
    DebandEd

    Thank you for offering your reasoned comments on the gaslighting we have been subjected to for the past several years. The good news is that scare tactics often represent the last-ditch effort of tyrants to obfuscate the truth and manipulate the sheep. Their error was rushing to propose their desired end-state (dissolution of the HOA without rationale) as the solution to a problem most of us believe is solvable without throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Moreover, they didn’t bother to check if their end-state was shared by the community (outside the “working group” cabal), which it most certainly is not. Thanks to you and a few others it isn’t working. I am in your debt.
    Moreover, your observation of the online meetings and how they were manipulated is spot on; bravo. Thank you for articulating what many of us recognized as a cynical attempt at creating the illusion of inclusion.
    Again, I want to thank you and the many others living in Sandia Airpark who are standing up against this assault on your quality of life.

  3. ksummers Avatar
    ksummers

    I agree wholeheartedly, Steve. I recall that Frank Hecksnecker (sp?) researched the non-profit status very carefully, and consulted with experts to set it up. We went around this merry-go-round at least once before, 15 or 20 years ago, and once again confirmed it is legitimate. There should be records in the Secretary’s documentation.

    I would suggest that, if this persists, we (i.e., not the Working Group) should hire an expert in the field, and get a second opinion. There is no way we should be herded into a dissolution by a lawyer and a member who is on record for many years wanting to get rid of the HOA.

  4. DMiddleton Avatar
    DMiddleton

    Steve, a lot of this seems like your personal opinion. Can you show me any proof of your claims? For example, you have stated that Jerry Powers is on record for stating he wants to dissolve the HOA – meaning is there any documentation to prove he said this prior to the IRS issue that has presented recently? Or that the attorney is only consulting with Jerry and not the entire board? How do you know that individual lot owners will not be liable and only the board? Personal attacks like this are what started the division and many of the problems in this HOA to start with.

    1. Steve Suddarth Avatar
      Steve Suddarth

      1. Indeed, much of my writing is opinion. We are all entitled to write our opinions. That does not, however, mean that I have no basis. I’ll address some of that below.
      2. Regarding Jerry’s interest in dissolving the HOA, I did not say that Jerry was “on record”, as in that I have a written document. Do we any such documents for anyone’s prior statements or intentions in SAEPOA? However, I had heard him and others around him describe this as an objective for some time. Jerry was public about his desire to do so for well over a year (the member meeting around December of 2023), when he first brought up the IRS issue without much background info. At the time, he insisted that we had to dissolve the HOA because it was chartered as a 501(c)3, and could not change the designation, which is not true. A not-for-profit corporation can enter into and leave 501(c)3 status and still be intact. It’s no secret that he has wanted this…and he’s welcome to speak for himself.
      3. Regarding the attorney, the billing records show Jerry as the only consult for some time, I believe at least for the last year. Deborah has examined those and we will share those as soon as I find the best way to post them.
      4. Protection for lot owners is due to the corporate shield that applies to all corporations, whether for-profit or not. It’s just like how you are not liable for misdeeds of McDonald’s Corporation just because you own stock in it. “Piercing a corporate veil” as it is called requires substantial malfeasance on the part of owners (i.e., members) and falls within certain scenarios. The board should know this, and doesn’t seem interested in communicating it, but rather it is encouraging fear and very hasty action. You can find a good article on it here: https://www.wagenmakerlaw.com/blog/piercing-the-corporate-veil-of-nonprofits.
      5. I should mention that board members may have a higher degree of liability than individual members. For example, not filing required financial documents could result in action against officers such as the President or Treasurer.
      6. I think you’re accusing me of “personal attacks”. I want to assure you that I am only trying to communicate what is neccessary to get the point accross. I am not attacking anyone personally, but the actions and behavior of SAEPOA officers are quite germane to this discussion, as the future of the airpark may hang in the balance. I will assure you, for example, that I will not post anything like the infamous video shared online at the behest of current board members as part of their election strategy.

  5. Teresa Ann Benton Avatar
    Teresa Ann Benton

    Thank you Steve for brining up the special work done for aviation with the Young Eagles. I would like to bring up the Navajo Air Lift. Done inconjunction with pilots from Arizona, our EAA pilots fly warm clothes and food to the Navajo Nation each November. Items are collected at John Lorenz’s hangar and flown to be distributed the reservation. Be a part of this wonderful effort to help our neighbors.
    WHY NOW? Winter clothing items are heavily discounted this time of year. If you have a charitable heart and room to store them til November, this is a wonderful cause and gives aviation a good name.

  6. Tom Klassen Avatar
    Tom Klassen

    Steve, thanks for creating this blog for people to comment on.

    I am not part of the “Working Group” and have only lived here for the last two and a half years. I mention this because I feel I don’t have a lot of emotional baggage that I have seen from some of my neighbors. Having said this, I have run a $45 million non-profit as CEO and have been in leadership positions in several other 501( c)3 organizations and I agree with the attorney’s opinion on the status of our association. It is clear to me that the association should have been set up as a 501( c)4 corporation, but that is water under the bridge. The question is how can we fix the problem now?

    From your comment “Consider that SAEPOA has operated for well over 30 years without problems from the IRS.” I assume you want to continue with the status quo even though this non-compliance issue has been identified to members for as long as I have lived here. That certainly is one option, but how can you consider this a valid option given the legal opinions we have received? Another option is to dissolve the corporation and not have an association. Another option is to create a 501( c)4 corporation as it should have been in the first place. My point is that we will have options and the board will present these options for the membership to vote on. There is no “panic” but a transparency of the issue before us and the need to take care of the problem.

    I would normally propose to set up a workgroup of concerned members but given some of the past emotional baggage this might be difficult to do and reach a consensus option to forward to members. Would you participate in this?

    You mentioned “There is a chance that officers of SAEPOA could be held accountable if the IRS or a court finds some kind of malfeasance.” you are correct and would you not agree that knowing an issue exists and doing nothing about it would be considered malfeasance? I am motivated to find a solution that all members can agree on.

    Thanks,

    1. Sarah Wilson Avatar
      Sarah Wilson

      Tom
      I appreciate your thoughts and information in the above comment. There may need to be a change to the structure of our HOA and there are options.
      Yes we do have options and these options should come from discussions generated by concerned members (as you stated). The board should present options developed by members. This process will take time.
      Over the last 2+ years there have been no discussions by members and no transparency from the board. Nothing positive has been generated by the board up to this point. There have been many false accusations and attacks on many of the past board members and there has been no leadership to make positive moves forward. Every move has been dictated by the now vice president Jerry Powers.
      Having a group of concerned and knowledgeable members working toward a solution for our HOA and coming up with options that are in the best interest of the members would be a positive step to having a neighborhood that most of us want.
      With transparency and discussions with members, I think the board could then present these options of moving forward. Human nature makes us want to amicable and pushes us toward problem solving together.
      Thank you for your professionalism and shared knowledge. I have high hopes that we will have an HOA that meets the needs of its members.
      Sarah

    2. Steve Suddarth Avatar
      Steve Suddarth

      Tom, thanks for the comment. I agree with your point that 30 years without problems does not mean that we should continue without addressing the issue. My point, however, is that we should not respond in haste. It took 30 years to get here, we can certainly take the time to make informed and proper decisions, and to allow the membership their proper (voting!) role in this process. I’m specifically concerned about the following:
      1. The board is not acknowledging the effectiveness of corporate veils – i.e., Jerry is trying to create a sense of panic regarding IRS action against individual members when the probability is vanishingly small. The attorney had to have known this, and he had a clear obligation to make it clear in the last meeting. This, in my mind, shows that his role is clouded and that he is influenced by Jerry’s filtering. By all reasonable appearances, he really works for Jerry even though he is paid for by the membership.
      2. The board does not consider the possibility that SAEPOA can continue to operate and perform its function just fine, even if 501(c)(3) status is revoked.
      3. What is the actual likelihood of IRS revocation of status? Is Jerry going to try to have our status revoked even if the IRS does not act against us? (I recall you bringing up the IRS’s willingness to work with organizations to keep their status during the January board meeting.)
      4. The complete lack of membership involvement in the decisions so far (e.g., Board alone deciding on the most significant issues in my entire time here — even after campaigning on ensuring participation and the ‘illegality’ of automatic ‘yes’ votes!)
      5. No credible efforts are even discussed by the board about how to become more clearly compliant (e.g., more activities, more spending on charitable or educational activity, fundraising for exempt purposes, etc.).
      I agree that officers could be held accountable by the IRS, but only for their actions (i.e., if they were somehow improper). Otherwise, they are protected by the corporate veil as well.
      I will indeed happily participate in some sort of group that investigates options for resolving the tax status. I am addressing the issue as well as I can already, and I hope to share more as I learn more. There are reasonable ways ahead, and I wish the board would work this with the Association’s interest at heart, and communicate with the membership in a two-way fashion, rather than to simply convince and/or force the membership to dissolve it in fear.
      My greatest concern is that the Board is now ruling the SAEPOA “politburo-style”, and the members are no longer allowed votes. Major changes only seem to require Jerry’s declaration that something is “illegal” (in his words alone), and then a Board vote deprives the members of their proper representation. I am, at this point, unsure that Jerry will not try to do the same thing with the very existence of SAEPOA, and that he will again get unanimous Board approval against the wishes of the membership. He likely has reasons that he is not sharing, and the specter of bad things for the Airpark in the furtherance of possible hidden business motives is a reality.

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